People always ask what products (in theory of course) could be used in an opiate based Cold Water Extraction.
Mersyndol is a viable option. It contains 8mg of Codeine, 5mg of Doxylamine Succinate, and our old friend Paracetamol.
So, what are the downsides to using Mersyndol? Well, one is that it is far more expensive than other medications while still having the same amount of codeine per pill as the alternatives. Also, Doxylamine Succinate (DaS) information is sparse at best, so it's hard to know with any degree of certainty how much is actually safe to consume.
Wikipedia has an article that talks about the uses of Doxylamine Succinate, and it seems that most countries max out doses at 5-10mg as a muscle relaxant. Australia however still markets DaS as a sleep aid, and in doses up to 50mg at a time. I use double the max dosage as a safe point for myself (in theory). So if I were to perform a Cold Water Extraction using Mersyndol only, I wouldn't use more than, say, 20 pills.
20 Mersyndol = 160mg Codeine, 100mg Doxylamine Succinate, 1g Paracetamol (as long as you follow the procedure correctly).
Check out the YouTube video below for a useful method to determine the safe amount of DaS or Caffeine to allow in your CWE.
Links of interest:
Wikipedia Article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxylamine
Safety Spreadsheet - http://youtu.be/DA944LMCmh8
CWE How-To Vid - http://youtu.be/MPtv0ACUaHA
7/18/2012
Cold Water Extraction - Basic Extraction
http://youtu.be/MPtv0ACUaHA
This is the most common extraction performed today. This is primarily because it is the easiest, but also because it is the simplest method for those without a chemistry or lab technology background. Later I will post a method that is still simple, but that requires some extra care and steps in order to create a much purer and safer final solution.
Some things to realize before reading:
- The amount of Paracetamol in your final solution is completely dependent on 2 things: How much water you've used, the temperature you've kept that water at.
- This means that you CANNOT use more than 100ml of water and after cooling you CANNOT allow the water temperature to increase by much. So don't add too much water, and don't let the water sit on the counter for more than 10 or 15 minutes.
- Watch the video above before reading. The video will give you a visual to follow along with and will give you a greater understanding of not only how to do each step, but WHY to do each step.
Cold Water Extraction Method
1. Crush desired number of pills. Remember to pay attention not only to the active ingredient that you want to end up with in your solution, but also any secondary ingredients. If you consume over 300mg of Caffeine, you will be hyper as hell, if you consume 500mg of Caffeine and have a heart condition, you might die. Do your research, and remember, do not attempt these at home!
2. Add 80-100ml of warm water to the pills. Ensure that the container that you're using to house the powder and water will be easy to pour out of later. Swish the bowl around until the solution looks like slightly watered-down milk.
3. Place in Fridge (2-3 hours) or freezer (10-15 minutes) to cool. If you place it in the freezer because you're in a hurry, make sure that you pay close attention to the solution. If it freezes, you will ruin it. The fridge is safest. I usually leave mine in the fridge over night.
4. While solution is cooling, prepare your filter. A coffee filter works best. Dampen the filter thoroughly with cold water and place it over a glass with an elastic around the lip to ensure that the filter won't slip and fall into the glass. Place in fridge to get cool. Remember, we want to keep everything cold as much as possible.
5. You should notice that the Paracetamol has settled to the bottom of the bowl. As the water cools, more paracetamol comes out of solution and crystallizes on the bottom. The solution needs to reach about 5-6C. This is the key to the entire CWE. If the solution doesn't get cold enough, too much Paracetamol will be left in the final solution. Carefully pour your entire solution into your filter. Add as much of the sludge at the bottom that you can.
6. Place the solution and glass into the fridge to filter. This part should take 2-3 hours to filter properly. You can ring it out early if you get impatient, but doing this will increase the amount of Paracetamol in your final solution.
7. When filtering is complete your solution should not appear milky in any way. It will however appear completely cloudy and will have a terribly bitter taste. If you have been thorough and careful, this solution will contain approximately 90-95% of the Opiate from your starting compound, 90-95% of the Caffeine, and 1g of Paracetamol. If you've used the freezer or squeezed out the filter early to speed up the process, add approximately 250mg of Paracetamol for each rush you've done.
8. Clean up!
Useful Links:
How to Create a Safety Spreadsheet - http://youtu.be/DA944LMCmh8
How to Perform a Basic CWE - http://youtu.be/MPtv0ACUaHA
How to Perform an Advanced CWE - http://youtu.be/k1vVQIEyBXs
This is the most common extraction performed today. This is primarily because it is the easiest, but also because it is the simplest method for those without a chemistry or lab technology background. Later I will post a method that is still simple, but that requires some extra care and steps in order to create a much purer and safer final solution.
Some things to realize before reading:
- The amount of Paracetamol in your final solution is completely dependent on 2 things: How much water you've used, the temperature you've kept that water at.
- This means that you CANNOT use more than 100ml of water and after cooling you CANNOT allow the water temperature to increase by much. So don't add too much water, and don't let the water sit on the counter for more than 10 or 15 minutes.
- Watch the video above before reading. The video will give you a visual to follow along with and will give you a greater understanding of not only how to do each step, but WHY to do each step.
Cold Water Extraction Method
1. Crush desired number of pills. Remember to pay attention not only to the active ingredient that you want to end up with in your solution, but also any secondary ingredients. If you consume over 300mg of Caffeine, you will be hyper as hell, if you consume 500mg of Caffeine and have a heart condition, you might die. Do your research, and remember, do not attempt these at home!
2. Add 80-100ml of warm water to the pills. Ensure that the container that you're using to house the powder and water will be easy to pour out of later. Swish the bowl around until the solution looks like slightly watered-down milk.
3. Place in Fridge (2-3 hours) or freezer (10-15 minutes) to cool. If you place it in the freezer because you're in a hurry, make sure that you pay close attention to the solution. If it freezes, you will ruin it. The fridge is safest. I usually leave mine in the fridge over night.
4. While solution is cooling, prepare your filter. A coffee filter works best. Dampen the filter thoroughly with cold water and place it over a glass with an elastic around the lip to ensure that the filter won't slip and fall into the glass. Place in fridge to get cool. Remember, we want to keep everything cold as much as possible.
5. You should notice that the Paracetamol has settled to the bottom of the bowl. As the water cools, more paracetamol comes out of solution and crystallizes on the bottom. The solution needs to reach about 5-6C. This is the key to the entire CWE. If the solution doesn't get cold enough, too much Paracetamol will be left in the final solution. Carefully pour your entire solution into your filter. Add as much of the sludge at the bottom that you can.
6. Place the solution and glass into the fridge to filter. This part should take 2-3 hours to filter properly. You can ring it out early if you get impatient, but doing this will increase the amount of Paracetamol in your final solution.
7. When filtering is complete your solution should not appear milky in any way. It will however appear completely cloudy and will have a terribly bitter taste. If you have been thorough and careful, this solution will contain approximately 90-95% of the Opiate from your starting compound, 90-95% of the Caffeine, and 1g of Paracetamol. If you've used the freezer or squeezed out the filter early to speed up the process, add approximately 250mg of Paracetamol for each rush you've done.
8. Clean up!
Useful Links:
How to Create a Safety Spreadsheet - http://youtu.be/DA944LMCmh8
How to Perform a Basic CWE - http://youtu.be/MPtv0ACUaHA
How to Perform an Advanced CWE - http://youtu.be/k1vVQIEyBXs
What is a Cold Water Extraction?
Cold water extractions are a type of chemical filtration that is easy to perform with basic equipment and amateur-level knowledge of chemistry. Most of the necessary pieces of equipment can be found at home or purchased from the local grocery store at a minimum of cost.
The purpose of a cold water extraction is to use the properties of desired compounds and undesired compounds and their known solubility in different temperatures of water in order to extract from a large amount of over the counter pills your desired compound without leaving much of the dangerous or undesired compound in solution.
For example, T1's can be purchased over the counter in Canada. They contain 8mg of Codeine, 15mg of Caffeine, and 300mg of Paracetamol. The codeine is the desired compound; the one that we would like to end up with a large amount of. The Paracetamol is the compound that we do not want a large amount of; anything over 2g can begin to cause liver damage.
In order to obtain say 160mg of Codeine, one would normally need to ingest 20 pills, which would be 6g of paracetamol; enough to kill you. Cold water extractions allow us to take advantage of the fact that Paracetamol is not very soluble in Cold Water, so we can end up with 160mg of Codeine and only have 1g of Paracetamol left in our solution.
The chemistry behind these extractions is sound, and I will be including quite a lot of information in this blog explaining the chemistry based background information required to understand how and why this works. The TL;DR of the matter is however that by following the very easy and very basic steps of a cold water extraction, in theory you can get a lot of Opiate (among other things) without the harmful Paracetamol.
Useful Links:
How to Create a Safety Spreadsheet - http://youtu.be/DA944LMCmh8
How to Perform a Basic CWE - http://youtu.be/MPtv0ACUaHA
How to Perform an Advanced CWE - http://youtu.be/k1vVQIEyBXs
The purpose of a cold water extraction is to use the properties of desired compounds and undesired compounds and their known solubility in different temperatures of water in order to extract from a large amount of over the counter pills your desired compound without leaving much of the dangerous or undesired compound in solution.
For example, T1's can be purchased over the counter in Canada. They contain 8mg of Codeine, 15mg of Caffeine, and 300mg of Paracetamol. The codeine is the desired compound; the one that we would like to end up with a large amount of. The Paracetamol is the compound that we do not want a large amount of; anything over 2g can begin to cause liver damage.
In order to obtain say 160mg of Codeine, one would normally need to ingest 20 pills, which would be 6g of paracetamol; enough to kill you. Cold water extractions allow us to take advantage of the fact that Paracetamol is not very soluble in Cold Water, so we can end up with 160mg of Codeine and only have 1g of Paracetamol left in our solution.
The chemistry behind these extractions is sound, and I will be including quite a lot of information in this blog explaining the chemistry based background information required to understand how and why this works. The TL;DR of the matter is however that by following the very easy and very basic steps of a cold water extraction, in theory you can get a lot of Opiate (among other things) without the harmful Paracetamol.
Useful Links:
How to Create a Safety Spreadsheet - http://youtu.be/DA944LMCmh8
How to Perform a Basic CWE - http://youtu.be/MPtv0ACUaHA
How to Perform an Advanced CWE - http://youtu.be/k1vVQIEyBXs
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